Guccifer 2 and the Podesta Emails

I’ve posted below the first forty documents that Guccifer 2 leaked on his/her WordPress site between June 15 – June 21, 2016.  What I’ve done is cross reference these leaks, which Guccifer 2 himself/herself said were from the DNC, with Wikileaks’ DNC email publication. My research shows that none of these Guccifer 2 DNC documents are in Wikileaks’ DNC documents. That’s not to say they didn’t show up at all in Wikileaks.  They did.  They showed up in Wikileaks’ Podesta emails, not the DNC emails.  At least almost half of them did.  The other half I was not able to locate at all in Wikileaks.  Please feel free to cross reference this list yourself with Wikileaks (sometimes you have to be creative in your search or use the attachment or filename search) because I’m only human here, folks. Furthermore,  I believe that debunking information only gets us closer to the truth.

Take a look.

June 15, 2016

Guccifer 2 released eleven documents that he/she claimed were “extracted when hacking into DNC’s network.”

  • Donald Trump Report
  • First “Democratic Party list of donors” screenshot
    • Not found
  • Second “Democratic Party list of donors” screenshot
    • Podesta Email Only 7.15.13 (Wikileaks attachment Donors.xlsx)
  • Third “Democratic Party list of donors” screenshot
    • Not found
  • Secret Document from Hillary’s PC titled “Promises and Proposals—National Security and Foreign Policy”
    • Not found
  • 2016 GOP presidential candidates
  • HRC election plans
  • National Security Transition Planning
    • Not found (My notes say that I had found this previously in the Podesta emails but who’s the idiot that didn’t save the Wikileaks’ link the first time? Yup, that would be me.)  Thank you to OneOfTheGods and nakedname who left the link to this in the comments below.
    • Podesta Email Only 8.7.2008 (Wikileaks attachment)
  • 2.19.16 Friends of HRC List_HFA16 Giving History
    • Not found
  • 4.16 Commitment Sheet_0404416 Update
    • Not found
  • 7.1.15 Commitment Sheet
    • Not found

 

June 18, 2016

Guccifer 2 released twenty documents on June 18, 2016 noting he/she took these documents from the DNC network—not the DCCC.

  • First “donor data” screenshot (with link included)
    • Not found
  • Second “donor data” screenshot (with link included)
    • Not found
  • Third “donor data” screenshot (with link included)
    • Not found
  • Financial Report
    • Not found
  • Hillary for America Fundraising Guidelines from Agent Letter
  • HRC Personal and Purpose Driven ROY
  • 2016 Red to Blue Memo
    • Not found
  • 2015 JHS Roster
    • Not found
  • 2015-03-22 Memo for Senior Staff
    • Podesta Email Only 3.21.15  (Wikileaks attachment ) *Notice John Podesta’s name has been removed in the Guccifer 2 document
  • 2015-2016 Contribution Limits (DCCC)
    • Not found. However, something similar is found in the Podesta emails. See 4.4.15 attachment “Hillary for America Contribution Limits.” Is it just me or does Guccifer 2’s document look like the header and date has been added?
  • confirmed attendees april 2016
    • Not found
  • Convention Memo -12-15
    • Podesta Email Only 1.03.15 (Wikileaks attachment)
  • Copy of DC Ind $1k Up
    • Not found
  • HFA Paid Media Traffic 3 9 16
  • Memo for Fundraising Staff
  • presidential campaign 2016
  • Private Memorandum to Ashton Carter 3.17.15
  • STAFF1
    • Not found
  • WJC HFA Requests 9.16.15
  • Wyss Democracy Strategy 03 06 15

 

June 21, 2016

  • 2016er Attacks—HRC Defense Master Doc
    • Not found
  • 04.29.15 CGEP
    • Podesta Email Only 4.29.15 (Wikileaks attachment “04.29.15 CGEP“)
  • 2016 Democrats Positions Cheat Sheet 7-7-15
    • Not found
  • 20150426 MEMO- Clinton Cash Unravels
    • Podesta email only 4.27.15 (Wikileaks attachment)
  • Attacks on Clinton Family Members
    • Not found
  • Clinton Foundation Donors $25K+
    • Not found
  • Clinton Foundation Vulnerabilities Master Doc FINAL
    • Not found
  • Clintons PFD 2015
    • Not found. Although HRC’s 2016 Financial Disclosure Form is in Wikileaks DNC emails. See attachment
  • HRC Defense – Emails
    • Not found
  • HRC Travel – Private Jets FINAL
    • Not found

I have compiled two lists from the documents above:  G2 (alleged DNC) documents found in Wikileaks’ Podesta emails and the G2 (alleged DNC) documents I could not find in any Wikileaks’ publications.  And to be clear, there is not one G2 document released on these three days (that’s as far as I researched) that I found in Wikileaks’ DNC email publication.

Only Found In Wikileaks’ Podesta Emails

  • 12.19.15   Donald Trump Report
  • 07.15.13   Second “Democratic Party list of donors” screenshot
  • 05.26.15. Strategy on GOP 2016ers.doc
  • 04.05.15  HRC Election Plans
  • 04.04.15  Hillary for America Fundraising Guidelines from                                         Agent Lette
  • 02.05.16  HRC Personal and Purpose Driven ROY
  • 03-22.15  Memo for Senior Staff (Podesta name is removed in G2 doc
  • 01.03.15   Convention Memo -12-15
  • 03.09.16  HFA Paid Media Traffic 3 9 16
  • 03.25.15. Memo for Fundraising Staff
  • 03.02.15  Presidential campaign 2016
  • 03.30.15 Private Memorandum to Ashton Carter 3.17.15
  • 09.17.15  WJC HFA Requests 9.16.15
  • 03.06.15  Wyss Democracy Strategy 03 06 16
  • 04.29.15 CGEP
  • 20150426 MEMO—Clinton Cash Unravels

Not Found In Any Wikileaks Publications

  • First “Democratic Party list of donors” screenshot
  • Third “Democratic Party list of donors” screenshot
  • Promises and Proposals—National Security and Foreign Police
  • 2.19.16 Friends of HRC List_HFA16 Giving History
  • 4.16 Commitment Sheet_0404416
  • 7.1.15 Commitment Sheet
  • First “donor data” screenshot
  • Second “donor data” screenshot
  • Third “donor data” screenshot
  • Financial Report
  • 2016 Red to Blue Memo
  • 2015 JHs Roster
  • 2015-2016 Contribution Limit (although similar doc is in Podesta emails
  • confirmed attendees april 2016
  • Copy of DC Ind $1K Up
  • Staff1
  • 2016er Attacks—HRC Defense Master Doc0
  • 7.07.15  2016 Democrats Positions Cheat Sheet 7-7-15
  • Attacks on Clinton Family Members
  • Clinton Foundation Donors $25k+
  • Clinton Foundation Vulnerabilities Master Doc FINAL (G2 document has two corrections in it dated 3.30.15
  • Clintons PFD 2015
  • HRC Defense—Emails
  • HRC Travel—Private Jets FINAL

So what does this all mean? Well, that’s a great question and frankly, I’m not sure.  You would think that if Guccifer 2 dumped legitimate DNC documents that they would be found in Wikileaks’ DNC emails and attachments but that doesn’t appear to be the case.  So here’s some scenarios I’ve come up with:

  • G2 leaked DNC documents that Wikileaks never received from their DNC email source
  • G2 leaked DNC documents that Wikileaks received from their DNC email source but did not publish them
  • G2 leaked DNC documents that were found in both the DNC and Podesta emails but Wikileaks only received them from their Podesta email source
  • G2 never leaked any DNC documents

I have a bunch of other ones rattling around my brain, some crazier than the next. As for the above, if G2 leaked legit DNC documents why didn’t Wikileaks’ source give those to them? Were the documents that I couldn’t find in Wikileaks never sent through DNC or Podesta email? That seems a little absurd but I suppose anything’s possible.

And why wouldn’t Wikileaks publish these documents if they had them? That makes even less sense—and the argument that maybe Wikileaks wanted to distance themselves from G2 because they were working with the Russians doesn’t makes sense either because the absence of G2 documents would make it more obvious that they were trying to distance themselves.  And don’t forget, just because I didn’t find them doesn’t mean some of them aren’t in Wikileaks (my guess is that more of the ones I couldn’t find are indeed in the Podesta emails). Or, if G2’s DNC documents were found in both DNC and Podesta emails (which wouldn’t be terribly weird) and Wikileaks’ source for the DNC and Podesta emails are one and the same why did Wikileaks’ source refrain from giving them certain DNC documents? Did Wikileaks refrain from publishing them in July, 2016 knowing full well that some of them (the ones they had) would come out later in the Podesta emails?

And when did Wikileaks’ source give them the DNC and Podesta emails? I have to assume it was before Guccifer 2 started publishing because of Assange’s interviews in June, 2016 which seemed to have set off this entire bowl of baffling G2 tomfoolery. Ugh, moving on…

Lastly, what if G2 never hacked the DNC in the first place?  It’s really not hard to believe after looking over Adam Carter’s research at g-2/space . He’s done an astounding job at debunking G2 as a Russian hacker.  In fact, metadata shows G2 may be DNC insider, Warren Flood.  However, it still doesn’t explain why G2 leaked documents that were either not found in Wikileaks’ publications or only found in the Podesta emails.

Am I thinking too much about this?  Is there a simpler explanation for this that I’m not seeing?

Leave a comment, your theories, or corrections below or you can tweet/DM me at @jimmysllama. Thanks!

 

 

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