Updates on the Seth Rich Case

If you missed my original post on the Seth Rich case you can find it here, and for those of you who are not a avid readers, check out @TracyBeanz who put together an amazing video covering my post.  Below are a few things I’ve come across in the past twenty-four to forty-eight hours regarding the case and, again, some of this could not have been done without the help of my awesome friends and followers on Twitter, so thank you everyone for your hard work and mad research skills!


Saturday night I came across this picture of Seth which was used in a July 12, 2016 Heatst.com story and I can’t help but wonder who else was on scene that took the picture.  Naturally it could have been anyone from the neighborhood who had been awakened by the gunshots and commotion but we don’t know that at this point.  Interestingly, if you missed George Webb’s videos on Saturday, he went to the bar where Seth was last seen at and had a chat with both the bar’s owner and some of the staff.  A few things to note:  According to Joe Capone, the owner of the bar who was said to have offered to drive Seth home or get him a taxi on the night he was murdered, now claims he wasn’t even in town that night.  He was in Ocean City, Maryland.



The other thing that Webb noted was that Capone told him that Seth’s friends were “talking with him [Seth] in the ambulance while he was sitting up.”  Webb concludes that that information may very well support his “handler theory” and the idea that Seth was drugged that night (if Webb was told the truth, that is).  I’m not one to shy away from the theory that Seth was drugged and taken somewhere that night, only to be dropped off, already beaten, bruised, and shot, at the corner of Flagler and W. NW.  There are stories already floating around out there that suggest Clinton’s goons picked him under the guise of being FBI agents or that Seth actually met with FBI agents.

But getting back to Webb’s video, what if  Seth’s friends really were at the scene of the shooting? Did one of them take the above picture or was it a neighbor?  When did the friends get to the scene?  Were they with Seth the entire evening and if so, why didn’t anyone see the shooter(s)?  Why didn’t his girlfriend mention it—did she not know he was out with friends even though she allegedly spoke with him for almost two hours on the phone that night up until the moment he was shot?  Did Seth call them after being shot?  Did the police call them after Seth, who was very much alive and talking at the time, ask them to call his friends?  So. Many. Questions. The other thing to consider here is what Webb was actually told (according to Webb)— “Seth’s friends were talking to him.”  This might sound stupid mainly because I wasn’t there for the conversation but could the owner have meant Seth’s friends talked to him over the phone?  No idea.

And why are there only two cops in the above picture?  The police report lists multiple officers on scene.  So many unanswered questions.  But keep an eye on Webb, I believe he mentioned in one of his videos that he might try to interview Seth’s roommates who live at an address on Euclid St. in D.C.   Webb believes Seth was living before he died.  With regards to roommates, something else to note is a post that was published on a Bloomingdale neighborhood blog run by Scott Roberts (did he take the picture above?) which reads,

“ShotSpotter sensors drew officers to Flagler Place and W Street, a block from a townhouse Rich moved into two years ago with several roommates.”

More roommates?  Have any of these people been interviewed?



I find this whole thing extremely interesting.  It seems that the D.C. police were patrolling the exact corner where Seth was shot prior to the night of the murder.  Check out these tweets:

A few things here.  I went all the way back to Scott Roberts’ 2013 tweets and the first time this guy mentions the D.C. police in the neighborhood is on July 1, 2016.  His tweet reads,

“a tardy shout-out to @DCPoliceDept Fifth District for positioning squad cars over several night at Flagler & W St NW in #BloomingdaleDC”

Before we jump to any conclusions we need to remember that the neighborhood, indeed, had seen a rise in crime in the preceding months and I’m about to prove it.  So, there may not be anymore to this story other than the cops were doing a neighborhood patrol.  But where were these guys on the night Seth was shot?  And for obvious, conspiratorial reasons I can’t help but wonder if there’s more to this? Was there some sort of surveillance going on and if so what or who were they surveilling?  The last tweet about the cops parked at that corner was on October 26, 2017, months after Seth’s murder. Again, my tinfoil hat is telling me they stuck around long after Seth’s murder to see who might be coming around to ask questions—and who was willing to answer them.  Or, as you’ll read in the next section, “The Neighborhood Crime,” they were trying to make a manufactured scenario not look so obvious by pulling police out of the neighborhood right after Seth’s death.  But I’m just a paranoid freak like that so maybe you shouldn’t buy into that theory too much.

The other thing I want to mention is Roberts’ tweet that was sent out only two minutes after Seth was shot.  It reads,

“two gunshots (or fireworks?) at 4:19am; police ow on the scene (no sirens) at Flagler & W St NW #BlommingdaleDC @dcpolicedept”

Okay, based on Roberts’ twitter account and his tweets, it seems pretty clear he lives in the neighborhood (again, did he take the picture of Seth in the street? Did he hear Seth talking?).  The important thing here is that he wrote “no sirens” because that totally plays into the robbery narrative.  Seth’s parents have repeatedly put forth the story that the shooter(s) were scared off because of how quickly the police arrived on scene but no sirens means “you no hear us coming.” However, the cops were said to be on motorcycles so maybe that did it…?  Too bad the picture above only shows a squad car, two police officers, and no motorcycles.  Just pointing that out.



We have two conflicting stories about Seth’s neighborhood:  it is an upscale and fairly area versus it was a violent hellhole where no one dared enter. So which is it? According to Scott Roberts’ blog (other websites confirm this), D.C. Chief Cathy Lanier stated that a. Seth’s neighborhood was generally pretty safe but that, admittedly, armed robberies had escalated in the four weeks leading up to Seth’s death and that b. She couldn’t confirm if Seth’s murder was related to these other crimes.

And it wasn’t just Chief Lanier, who apparently got a cushy job with the NFL shortly after Seth’s death (August, 2016), who noted the escalation of crime. On the morning of the shooting, Popville.com published a short update about the incident and the comments are extremely telling. As a heads up, most of the commenters on this website, which you’ll soon realize, lived in the neighborhood at the time of Seth’s murder (or still do).  They were all aware of this escalating violence and…the mysterious “silver handgun” guys…

That’s right.  Apparently four weeks before Seth’s shooting a group of  “silver handgun” bandits started roaming the 2-3 block radius around the area Seth got shot and the city was doing nothing to stop it.

You may have noticed that more than one resident suggested that the Richs’ sue the city due to negligent which begs the question of  “Why didn’t they sue?”  It’s not like the family wasn’t aware of what was going on and I’m not saying that because Seth may have told his parents and/or brother about the rising violence in the area or about carrying water bottles around to protect himself.  I say that because Seth’s brother, Aaron, actually posted on this very thread the day after his brother died.

So it appears that the Rich family is fully aware of these alleged “silver handgun” maniacs plus what appears to be negligence on the part of city.  So again, why in the world are these people threatening private investigators for discussing their son on television with regards to a completely plausible theory (Wikileaks source/DNC murder) but not threatening the city with a lawsuit?  It’s insane if you ask me.  Aaron’s post received multiple responses which you can check out yourself but I’ll leave you with this one where one neighbor stated that there was suppose to be security guards stationed around the construction sites in the neighborhood “24/7”  but there had been reports that they weren’t showing up.

Here’s another comment from Scott Roberts’ blog,

“But seriously; where is MPD? There is a string of armed robberies and other high profile crime in the exact same 2013 blocks and NOWHERE ELSE in the neighborhood.”

(I wonder what this other high profile crime is?)

Do you see how crazy this is?  I don’t know if you guys are going to think I’m nuts by proposing this especially since I’m pretty reserved in the conspiracy department but here goes:  The four weeks of crime leading up to Seth’s death was paid for by none other than George Soros.  Yup. I said it.  I’ve officially swan-dived off the conspiracy edge but here are my reasons why: Almost four weeks before Seth’s death is when Julian Assange hinted that he had an upcoming Clinton publication. Almost four weeks before Seth’s death is when the DNC said they had been hacked by Russians. Almost four weeks before Seth’s death is when Guccifer 2 came online. Almost four weeks before Seth’s death the shiz really starting hitting the fan.

Think about this:  Soros is a billionaire who has the ability to whip up political protests around the world, some of which have affected presidential election results.  With that in mind, how hard would it really be for him to hire and pay the neighborhood security guards who never showed up to work and some small-time gangsters to terrorize a neighborhood for a month so that four weeks later an armed robbery gone bad looks completely plausible. I’ll help you:  Not that hard.  

I’m totally sticking with this theory for now.



On Saturday I sent a DM out on Twitter that contained a screenshot from BeenVerified which showed the last verifiable address for Seth Rich was 430 S. Capitol St. SE, Washington, DC.  Surprisingly (or not), this is the address for the DNC in Washington.

Less than sixteen hours later, on May 21, 2017, Seth Rich’s records via BeenVerified were changed. The records no longer reflected the DNC  as his last verifiable address and instead reflected the address that is seen on the police report from the night of his murder.

Report ran on May 20, 2017


Report ran on May 21, 2017

Pretty effing weird, am I right?  Also, take a look at some of George Webb’s videos.  He talks about that 1222 Euclid St. address that shows up in the second BeenVerified report and believes that, contrary to the police report, that was where Seth was living at the time of his death.  Another excellent point made on Twitter was that if someone did change Seth’s address to the DNC address, all of his mail would be delivered there.  Oh, man.  There is some dirty dealings happening here, folks.



Someone’s been tinkering around with Seth’s Reddit account as well.  Check out Caitlin Johnstone’s Medium article, “Someone Just Edited Seth Rich’s Reddit Posts” for a more detailed analysis. It’s got some good information in it.




After graduating from Creighton University, Seth worked for , a consulting firm used by the Hillary Clinton campaign in both 2008 and 2016.  Interestingly enough, after Wikileaks published the Podesta emails, the firm was implicated in a polling scandal.  For the full story go HERE.  For a look at one of Greenberg, Quinlan, Rosner Research’s presentations entitled, “Controlling the Polling Program” follow this link Wikileaks and then click on the attachment “AFLCIO100407.ppt.”

I haven’t had time to do any more digging on this firm—or to even dive into the polling scandal—but if you’re interested you might start with a list of people who work there which you can find HERE.




Remember when I posted this yesterday from the Anon Med on 4 Chan?

Okay, as some of you know, I tend not to put a lot of stock in these kinds of things (Anon Med, FBI Anon, etc.), however, I do keep a mental note of them.  This one, if true, is incredibly detailed and has some pretty crazy allegations in it. But there’s something in the post that I missed the first time that @TracyBeanz picked up on right away (because she’s awesome like that).  Note this sentence,

“About 8 hours after he arrived we were swarmed by LEOs…”

Eight hours.  If Seth was shot at 4:30a.m. that takes us to 12:30p.m. on Sunday, July 10th.  Yet, according to both Seth’s parents and every news source available, Seth was pronounced dead at 5:57a.m. on July 10th.  So what gives?  Like I said, I don’t put a lot of stock into these things and the only time he refers to the afternoon which technically he doesn’t even use that word, is the eight hour comment—that takes us to the afternoon on Sunday.  Yet, everything else in the post refers to the morning hours. I find that odd.  But is that enough to discredit the information?  Not at all, but it’s also an anon post so how much credit can you give it in the first place?  What we need is someone willing to leak some medical records.  That’d clear this whole debacle up.



I don’t know how many of you are following this lawsuit because even I’ve been relying on others to keep me up to date (there’s so much to keep track of these days!).  @tracybeanz just put out a great video about this that you need to watch, especially if you haven’t been paying attention (or haven’t had the time).

For a quick timeline about what happened here goes:  Julian Assange indicated in June, 2016, he had an upcoming publication centering on Clinton.  By the end of June, a group of Bernie supporters decided to sue the DNC for election fraud because as we all know now the Democratic primaries were rigged.  On July 1, 2016, Sean Lucas, a process server, served the DNC at their headquarters in D.C.  You can watch him serve it on Youtube.  Nine days later Seth was murdered and on August 2, 2016, Sean Lucas was found dead in his bathroom.  He was 38 years old.

This case is YUGE and it’s getting no media coverage whatsoever.  Follow @dncfraudlawsuit  on Twitter for updates or watch for new @tracybeanz videos.  You can also go to jampac.us which has all of the court documents posted. As a reminder, check out Adam Carter’s website g-2/space which pretty much blows the Guccifer 2 story out of the water (it wasn’t the Russians, folks) and @HannibalMoot’s Medium page where he completely dismantles Robin Young’s text messages with Guccifer 2 (in the texts Guccifer 2 claims that Seth Rich was his source.  Hogwash, I say.)




This guy comes up with some really unique, if not off-the-wall, theories all the time and I love him for it. I’m going to leave this without comment.



Yup, he said he has the evidence (or rather, “is the evidence”) that Seth Rich was Wikileaks’ source and that he will present a statement about it on Tuesday, May 23, 2017. First of all, there’s almost nothing I’d rather see than every single politician, IC agent, and liberal get crushed underneath the brutal truth that Russia did not hack the DNC or John Podesta. Literally, almost nothing. But I’m not holding my breath on this one.  And depending on what he shares (if anything), how he was involved in all of this (if he legitimately was suppose to be), and assuming none of this is about Wikileaks’ security, his “evidence” better not scare off whistleblowers, leakers, or hackers from Wikileaks or I’m going to be not.very.happy.

For a list of Dotcom’s earlier tweets that strongly suggest he knew about the DNC and Podesta leaks prior to Wikileaks’ 2016 publications check out ZeroHedge.com.



@thedonaldreddit posted an amazing Seth Rich timeline on Reddit and at the time I’m writing this, it had been taken down. Someone who goes by spinometer put it back up so just in case it’s taken down again:

Jan 3, 1989 Seth Conrad Rich born to parents Joel and Mary Rich in Omaha, Nebraska. Seth was 27 at time of death.

  • “Seth Rich seemed to be friends with everybody, but he would stand up to anybody for what’s right.” (source)
  • “Seth slept with an American flag over his bed.” (source)
  • “Everyone seems to agree on Seth’s fighting spirit” (source)
  • “He’s kind of known as a goofball, but to me it was very clear to me that there was so much more. It didn’t matter who you were, where you came from or where you were going. If he thought you were in trouble, he wanted to help. If you were sad he was going to make you happy, he was going to make you laugh.” (source)
  • “He was a great guy, personable, always there to kind of brighten up your day, even though that was our job as bartenders, just to make the customers happy. Seth would see if we’re not happy, he would just like try to cheer us up a little bit.” (source)
  • “All my life I wanted to be in a position that I can make a difference” (source)
  • “Rich was known for his elaborate outfits. On the Fourth of July, he had dress head to toe in clothes covered with an American flag pattern.” (source)
  • “When he was stuck late at night working in the office, he would dress up as a panda to make his co-workers laugh.” (source)

Sun, Feb 22, 2015

  • John Podesta writes, “I’m definitely for making an example of a suspected leaker whether or not we have any real basis for it.” This quote reveals John’s general mindset when it comes to leakers; clearly he cannot know that more than a year from now he will be dealing with some of the most damaging leaks in the history of politics.

May 23, 2016 Source: obamawhitehouse.archives.gov

  • 12:15pm EDT Huma Shah makes appointment for Jennifer Palmieri (Director of Communications for Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign) to meet Katherine Branch (Director of Special Projects and Events Special Assistant to Valerie Jarrett) in the West Wing.
  • 12:28pm EDT Jennifer Palmieri arrives to the West Wing.
  • 1:39pm EDT Jennifer Palmieri leaves.

Wed, May 25, 2016

  • Last date of emails in Wikileaks dump of DNC emails, which will happen on July 22.
  • Mayor of Boston issues press release that Andrew Therriault is leaving his position as Director of Data Science for the Democratic National Convention and joining the Boston city government as Chief Data Officer.

June 2016

  • Andrew Therriault moves to Boston from DC to begin new job.

June 21, 2016

  • Approx. 2pm EDT Stephen Bannon of Brietbart News writes that Guccifer 2.0 has leaked an internal DNC memo that lists vulnerabilities Hillary faces due to activities of the Clinton Foundation.
  • 7:21pm EDT Crystal Carson makes appointment for Jennifer Palmieri to meet Jen Psaki in the “upper pres” of the White House. Source: obamawhitehouse.archives.gov

June 22, 2016 Source: obamawhitehouse.archives.gov

  • 12:33pm EDT Jennifer Palmieri arrives to the White House to meet Jen Psaki.
  • 2:28pm EDT Jennifer Palmieri leaves.

Sun, July 10, 2016

  • Note that by this date, Wikileaks has not leaked any emails having to do with the 2016 election, and has been largely out of the news. Wikileaks does not become a big player in the election until it releases the DNC emails on July 22, twelve days from now.
  • 4:20am Officers report beginning of incident with Seth Conrad Rich.
  • 5:57am Seth pronounced dead by unknown physician at unknown hospital.
  • 7:10am Police report filed (CCN #16113797): “CIC reports the sound of gunshots at 2134 Flagler Pl. NW. Upon arriving to the scene, the decedent was laying in the Southwest corder of the intersection of W St. and Flagler Pl. NW. The decedent was conscious and breathing with apparent gunshot wound(s) to the back. The decedent was transported to local area hospital and was pronounced by attending physician at 0557 hours.” Responding office listed as: “Jody O’Leary (#7859)”. Assisting officers listed as: “ROBERT WINGATE ROBINSON (#7634)(Body Worn Camera),Derek Tarr (#9237)(Other Officers At Scene),Shea Ellis (#9499)(Other Officers At Scene),Benjamin Velez (#6631)(Body Worn Camera),Mark Lee (#6141)(Body Worn Camera)”.
  • Seth’s parents recount: “Seth was walking home, talking to his girlfriend on his cellphone. He was about a block from his place when his girlfriend heard voices or something in the background. Seth said he had to go. Two minutes later, he was shot.”
  • Seth’s father recounts: “The officers who were there and they said ‘Yeah, he was quite talkative, he did not realize he had been shot.'”
  • Seth’s girlfriend of two years, Kelsey Mulka, recounts: “We were on the phone just wrapping up our conversation, he had kind of told me that he was getting close to his house.”
  • D.C. Police Captain Anthony Haythe states: “It appears he was targeted. He was shot multiple times”
  • Investigators go on record to confirm: Seth still had his wallet, watch and phone when he was discovered shot in the street.

Mon, July 11, 2016

  • Rafael Aguilar and Carmelo Marmolejo-Calixto are found dead in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, with “gunshot wounds to vital organs”, 434 miles from where Seth was shot 24 hours earlier, a 7 hour drive.
  • From the article: “On Monday, one of the deceased men was found lying face down on the ground next to a gold Chevrolet Astro van that had tinted windows with the windshield wipers still moving. The other victim was slumped over in the passenger seat of the van.” Van has Florida South Carolina license plate LGL 344.
  • Note that an anti-gun-violence website that shows Rafael Aguilar’s occupation as “Clinton 2016 campaign aid” allows anyone to freely tag victims with occupations; “Clinton 2016 campaign aid” was likely added as a joke.

Tue, July 12, 2016 Hillary Clinton uses Seth’s murder to advocate in a campaign speech for stricter gun control.

Wed, July 13, 2016 More than 100 people attend vigil held in front of Seth’s home in D.C.

  • DNC chairwoman, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, attended and stated: “Seth’s life was not lived in vain. Seth Rich lived his life fully every single day for 27 years. Each of us at the DNC were absolutely privileged to work with him, to fight side by side with him every single day.”

[–]spinometer[S] 2 points

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Fri, July 22, 2016

  • 10:30am EDT WikiLeaks releases DNC email database with 44,053 emails and 17,761 attachments, in two tranches, covering period from January 2015 to May 25, 2016.
  • 5:25pm EDT Donna Coleman makes appointment for Andrew M. Therriault and Christopher M. Dwelley to visit Kelly Jin at White House on August 1, 2016. Source: obamawhitehouse.archives.gov

Wed, July 26, 2016 Police in Myrtle Beach, SC, ask for help solving murders of Rafael Aguilar and Carmelo Marmolejo-Calixto.

Fri, July 28, 2016

  • 8pm EDT Paul Tyrone Dorn, Demetrius Brandon, and Stanley Marquis Williams are arrested for an attempted armed robbery nine blocks from where Seth was shot.

Mon, Aug 1, 2016 Source: obamawhitehouse.archives.gov

  • 9:30am EDT Donna Coleman makes appointment for Kamau Bobb and family to visit Quincy Brown in room 491 of “OEOB” today.
  • 10:16am EDT Donna Coleman makes appointment for Alfred J. Cornelius to visit Rich Pouyat in room 474 of “OEOB” today.
  • 10:17am EDT Andrew M. Therriault and Christopher M. Dwelley arrive to White House to meet Kelly Jin in room 442 of “OEOB”.
  • 10:37am EDT Alfred arrives to White House.
  • 10:43am EDT Bobb family arrives to White House.
  • 11:40am EDT Andrew and Christopher leave.
  • 11:51am EDT Bobb family leaves.
  • 5:48pm EDT Alfred leaves.

Fri, Aug 5, 2016 D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier states: “Right now, we have more questions than answers.”

Tue, Aug 9, 2016

  • Julian Assange hints in a Dutch television interview that Seth Rich is Wikileaks’ source for the DNC emails.
  • The same day, Wikileaks offers a $20,000 reward for information leading to a conviction in Seth’s killing.

Tue, Aug 16, 2016 D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier announces she is stepping down to become head of security for the NFL.

Sat, Aug 20, 2016 Newsweek publishes story on Seth Rich. From the article:

  • “Police have declined to say whether he was able to describe his assailants.”
  • “They found his wallet, credit cards and cellphone on his body. The band of his wristwatch was torn but not broken.”

Sep 17, 2016 D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier’s last day of work.

Sep 30, 2016

  • Seth’s parents (Joel and Mary Rich), girlfriend (Kelsey Mulka), best friend (Michael Cass-Antony), and others (Joseph Capone) who knew Seth go on record to defend Seth against rumors that he is the DNC email leaker, giving exclusive interviews to Crime Watch Daily.
  • Michael Cass-Antony, reported to be Seth’s best friend, equates being good with caring for the DNC: “All those lies that are being bandied about in the news are just that, and the reason that nobody close to him has refuted them is because there’s no reason to, because he spoke for himself. Because anybody who knows him knows how good of a person he was, knows how much he cared for the DNC and for where he worked and how much he believed in his cause.”
  • Seth’s parents state: “He had just found out he was going to go to work for the Clinton campaign doing data analysis and helping getting people out to vote,” and that he had just started to draft a “letter of acceptance”, but had only managed to write two sentences, one of which was: “All my life I wanted to be in a position that I can make a difference.” Who writes acceptance letters to job offers??? You write a letter if you’ve got more to say than just a simple acceptance.
  • Joseph Capone, general manager of Lou’s City Bar, states: “I heard there was a bunch of robberies lately by a man with a silver gun in the area. He was here just by himself that night, and even asked him if he wanted to stick around and get a ride home. He was like ‘No, I’m going to go somewhere else and then I’ll go home.'”

Nov 23, 2016 Parents Joel and Mary Rich appear at press conference with Republican lobbyist Jack Burkman to offer $125,000 reward.

Wed, Dec 14, 2016

  • Craig Murray of Wikileaks claims to have met a disgruntled DNC staffer in September who gave him emails. These could only have been the Podesta emails, released on October 7, 2016, not the DNC emails, which were released July 22.

Feb 20, 2017

  • Jack Burkman appeals to Congress to investigate Seth’s death under the theory that it might have been the Russians trying to disrupt the voter registration project Seth was working on for the DNC.

Please leave a comment below or tweet me with your feedback, crazy theories, or spelling and grammar errors (probably best to ignore the spelling/grammar errors, no one has time to correct the level of incompetency seen in this post) to @jimmysllama.


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  1. Wow! Where to begin? I guess I’ll just say that Burkman (Republican lobbyist on the “Russia did it” thing) seems to be up to his neck in whatever is going on. Seems really odd to me that the parents would choose to do a press conference offering a reward with a Republican seeing as how Seth was such an avid and enthusiastic DNC guy. And I thought “the Russians did it” was mostly a favorite of Democrats at that time — although I could be wrong. This seems to be something that’s said whenever a politician type wants to “muddy the waters” on the subject at hand. There’s obviously something big going on here that nobody seems to want the public to know about.

    When it comes to cases like this in these times, I take nothing at face value. I believe nothing I hear and only half of what I see.

    P.S., The silver handgun bandits thing seems like another invented detail or some sort of elaborate distraction, so I wouldn’t be a bit surprised to find that Soros or someone else provided it.

    1. The 4th year resident states there were three gunshot wounds. Two were entry and one was an exit wound. So if the bullet was still inside Seth, who has it now? Where was it found? Did the cops find the one that exited? What do the forensics show about the gun(s) used?

      1. Apparently there “were no shell casings”…. There’s so much conflicting information…. If the “robbers” were “too much in a hurry” to even steal his wallet, phone, or watch, how could the casings be missing? I thought “they quickly ran off when the cops were on their way” (with no sirens on, apparently. Jesus….

        1. Simple. That would indicate a revolver was used. The shell casings stay inside the wheel until they are cleared, manually and then it’s reloaded. Bu the bullet that remained would tell a lot… where’s that bullet? The other one that passed through should have been found as well, I would think, but it’s sure that the one that did not exit would still give a lot of information.

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            Yes, Seth’s mom stated it was a revolver, I believe, at the November 21, 2016 press conference.

  2. 3 wounds, 2 entry & 1 exit is nonsense. If a bullet went thru a person from his back to this front & out, that would be 1 wound. A theory that the Russians shot Seth Rich is absurd.

    1. Nope. Three wounds. The entry wound is usually quite small but the exit wound can be quite large, depending on the type of bullet and the gun used. For instance, I have a .357. If I shoot using a .357 hollow point, the entry wound would be smaller, but the exit wound would be huge. It makes perfect sense, if you know anything at all about guns, to describe the three wounds just as that anonymous resident doctor described.

  3. I’ve been a Life-Flight paramedic for almost 20 years. Technically that’s 2 wounds… a through and through, with an entry and exit, and a 2nd GSW (gun shot wound) with just an entry (where the bullet dumped all it’s energy in the target). At least that’s how I’d describe it on the radio, in the trauma room, and in my paperwork. A bullet typically enters with a small, puncture-looking entrance wound, then causes a temporary, large cavity, as it passes through and stretches tissue, leaves a smaller permanent cavity, or track in it’s “wake”, then exits, typically with much larger, ragged, ugly looking wound. To me, that’s a single GSW. But, I could see a doc, especially a surgeon, describing it as 2 separate wounds — they worry about the entrance, the track / cavity and what structures / organs are involved, then obviously the larger (in most cases) exit wound. All that said, bullets do unexpected things sometimes, and don’t always follow a straight path, or they fragment and cause more than one cavity, or exit wound. As stated above, where the hell are the bullets? I’m guessing in the same place as his laptop.

    1. Thanks, Brett. That makes sense as well. I would think most of us not being in the medical profession at all, would envision and think of each wound as separate. I know hunters look for both… a clean shot would hit the target animal in the heart/lung area and pass through unobstructed, and the animal dies with little internal damage. Sometimes the bullet doesn’t pass through, but might be found just under the skin as the animal is skinned out. And, bullets, if they hit bone, can traverse the entire length of the body, entering at one point and maybe exiting up under the ear or in the neck, If they hit bone such as ribs or whatever, they can ricochet around and do tremendous damage internally. And bullets, depending on what kind and what they are made of, can fragment, but if they remain whole, they will mushroom/expand once they hit their target. Again, how much depends on the type of bullet.

      Bullets have “fingerprints”. They can be traced back to the registered owner. My .357 was a police issued revolver. I don’t have the specifics on it. I do, however, have the specifics on a new .22 revolver I bought. Every gun is fired once before sold. The info I have on the envelope, which contains the casing from that, states the make, caliber, and gun type. It also states the rifling characteristics as such: 1 in 14″ right hand twist, 5 lands and groves, land width = .0xx” This is kept on file, along with the collector’s name and the date collected, the model # and the serial #. So if my guns are stolen or loaned to someone who commits a crime, the bullets can be used to trace the gun back to me.

      So… what info does that bullet say about the shooter in Seth’s case?

      1. So… if the cops found the other bullet that did pass through, they would compare the two and find out if both were fired from the same gun or if from two different guns. But they should be able to trace the bullets back to the registered owner based on the rifling characteristics. I am just kind of guessing though. I am not a forensics expert.

  4. So, I’ve been following the case lightly. Nice set of detailed facts pulled together by jimmysllama.
    Read the following and keep in mind that my childhood was filled with “interesting” people and may bias the questions.

    Here are my questions:

    1) Is Seth Rich really dead?

    2) How was his body ID’d? Visually by relative or by a photo? Easily faked with the latter.

    3) Maybe he is in FBI witness protection program after his attempted murder?

    4) It’s possible the chaos after eight hours, referred to by “Anon Med”, is when Rich regained
    consciousness and police (FBI) busted ass to get him to safety elsewhere or question him
    about shooter(s)?

    5) Unnamed hospital, unnamed doctor, no cam footage from police or known cameras in the
    location, why? Because now every amateur detective (1000’s) can trace details over the
    net with a high degree of accuracy, i.e. /pol/.

    If he is deceased, I wish his family peace and justice. It will take several years for the web of lies
    to unfurl and even more years to get to trial. In short, there will be no expedient resolution.

    Again, great job on the research.

  5. I’m wondering if Seth’s parents are being fed the wrong information. If they’ve been threatened or if they are Seth’s parents? They are acting oddly…

  6. I ran a pic test of the Setth Crime scene from Heat Street. Being they were the first to put it up on july 12 it came up as altered pix..with origins to popular software editing progs. Other than for cropping to fit there should be no reason to alter the contents..which show quite a few discrepancies too numerous.to discuss. The Izitru website will run a test only with an original picture before certifying it is kosher..at no charge..and placing in its compendium of certified pix..
    I twitterd Heatst but got no response..
    It should be obvious to most by now..that information such as addresses can be seeded into most databanks..even on wayback..because they are used to create what the intel community calls cutouts..info is just a digit just like a pixel..and easily manipulated..like a headline can.
    That said..It was a mystery to me why no attribution, copyright etc on the photo..

    Maybe you all can ask Heatstreet how they got it..to run it thru.and post the results.it won’t be the first time a paper got an edited photo..remember..images have been responsible for us going to war..and inciting to such..so it’s important.


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